Round Dial Grandfather Clock Kit

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Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Round Dial Grandfather Clock Kit

Round Dial Grandfather Clock Kit has a German made triple chime, cable driven movement with second hand bit. This mechanical crank wound 8 day clock movement is the popular 1161-853 unit is made by Hermle Clock Company of Germany.

Plays choice of three songs or silent, auto beat function and second hand sweep. This kit includes everything, the Lyre pendulum, gong assembly, hands and hardware and weights. This is everything needed for a clock except for the clock case.

The Mechanical Movement

1161-853 Hermle Clock Movement is a German made triple chime cable driven unit that takes three weights. This is a rectangle shaped movement with the movement plate size of 140 x 200mm and includes a size #8 crank.

About the Dial

Triple-Chime Grandfather Clock Kit is Outfitted a Decorative white Roman numeral dial that is There is feet coming out the back of the dial that lock into the front plate of the movement. The dial is an easy install because the movement has levers behind the front plate that one just uses the fingers to push the lever and lock the dial foot post. White dial with 10-5/8” time track. 1-3/4” seconds circle with 1-3/8” time track. Slot for chime settings at III. “Hermle” logo below the 9mm winding arbor hole. Brass bezel. Four 1-11/16” mounting pins on reverse. 9mm winding arbor holes on 5-5/8” centers.

The Pendulum CM Length

The Lyre pendulum can come in a variety of lengths. This is indicated by the CM number on the back plate of the movement. However this CM length is the entire pendulum assembly and not just the pendulum. So this CM includes the leader, the suspension spring, and the pendulum tip to tip. This length also varies some due to the weight of the pendulum, and also the bob diameter.


Assistance = 800-381-7458

Round Dial Grandfather Clock Kit
  • Hermle 1161-853
  • Triple Chime
  • Cable Driven
  • 11 7/8 Dial
  • Lyre Pendulum
  • Back 12 Rod Strike
  • Movement = 140 x 220mm
  • Serpentine Hands
  • Made in Germany
  • 3-year warranty
Listen to Westminster
Listen to Wittington
Listen to St Micheals

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White Moon Dial Grandfather Clock Kit

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Mechanical Clock Kits offered on this page are for the clock case maker or to set up all new insides to a currently existing clock.
Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMechanical Movement optionsBuy prior to case creationBuild a Seat BoardPendulum info
Please view these information tabs for Building Mechanical Clock Kits.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

White Moon Dial Grandfather Clock Kit

White Moon Dial Grandfather Clock Kit is a traditional sized Cable driven grand father clock kit. Plays choice of three songs or silent, auto beat function and second hand sweep. This kit includes everything, the Lyre pendulum, moon dial, gong assembly, hands and hardware and weights. This is everything needed for a clock except for the clock case.

The Mechanical Movement

1161-853 Hermle Clock Movement is a German made triple chime cable driven unit that takes three weights. This is a rectangle shaped movement with the movement plate size of 140 x 200mm and includes a size #8 crank.

About the Moon Dial

Triple-Chime Grandfather Clock Kit is Outfitted a Decorative white moving moon dial that is 11 x 15 1/2 inches tall. This dial is unique because it has the second hand sweep, and calendar function, as well as the moving moon disk. There is feet coming out the back of the dial that lock into the front plate of the movement. The dial is an easy install because the movement has levers behind the front plate that one just uses the fingers to push the lever and lock the dial foot post.

The Pendulum CM Length

The Lyre pendulum can come in a variety of lengths. This is indicated by the CM number on the back plate of the movement. However this CM length is the entire pendulum assembly and not just the pendulum. So this CM includes the leader, the suspension spring, and the pendulum tip to tip. This length also varies some due to the weight of the pendulum, and also the bob diameter.

Assistance = 800-381-7458

  • Hermle 1161-853
  • Triple Chime
  • Cable Driven
  • 11 x 15.5 Moon Dial
  • Lyre Pendulum
  • Back 12 Rod Strike
  • Movement = 140 x 220mm
  • Serpentine Hands
  • Made in Germany
  • 3-year warranty
Listen to Westminster
Listen to Wittington
Listen to St Micheals

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Triple-Chime Grandfather Clock Kit GFKIT101

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Mechanical Clock Kits offered on this page are for the clock case maker or to set up all new insides to a currently existing clock.
Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMechanical Movement optionsBuy prior to case creationBuild a Seat BoardPendulum info
Please view these information tabs for Building Mechanical Clock Kits.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Triple-Chime Grandfather Clock Kit

Triple-Chime Grandfather Clock Kit is Outfitted a Decorative Presidential moving moon dial that is 11 x 15 1/2 with matching pendulum with a 10 1/2 bob. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum. Includes polished weights, Lyre pendulum, moon dial, gong assembly, hands and hardware. This is everything you need for a clock except for the clock case.

Assistance = 800-381-7458

Triple-Chime Grandfather Clock Kit GFKIT101
  • Hermle 1161-853
  • Triple Chime
  • Cable Driven
  • 11 x 15.5 Moon Dial
  • Lyre Pendulum
  • Back 12 Rod Strike
  • Movement = 140 x 220mm
  • Serpentine Hands
  • Made in Germany
  • 3-year warranty
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Mechanical Grandfather Clock Kit

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Mechanical Clock Kits offered on this page are for the clock case maker or to set up all new insides to a currently existing clock.
Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMechanical Movement optionsBuy prior to case creationBuild a Seat BoardPendulum info
Please view these information tabs for Building Mechanical Clock Kits.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Mechanical Grandfather Clock Kit

Mechanical Grandfather Clock Kit is a traditional sized Cable driven kit that will fit up in a larger clock case. Plays choice of three songs or silent, auto beat function and second hand sweep. This kit includes everything, the Lyre pendulum, moon dial, gong assembly, hands and hardware and weights. This is everything needed for a clock except for the clock case.

The Mechanical Movement

1161-853 Hermle Clock Movement is a German made triple chime cable driven unit that takes three weights. This is a rectangle shaped movement with the movement plate size of 140 x 200mm and includes a size #8 crank.

About the Moon Dial

Triple-Chime Grandfather Clock Kit is Outfitted a Decorative moving moon dial that is 11 x 15 1/2 inches tall. This dial is unique because it has the second hand sweep as well as the moving moon disk. There is feet coming out the back of the dial that lock into the front plate of the movement. The dial is an easy install because the movement has levers behind the front plate that one just uses the fingers to push the lever and lock the dial foot post.

The Pendulum CM Length

The Lyre pendulum can come in a variety of lengths. This is indicated by the CM number on the back plate of the movement. However this CM length is the entire pendulum assembly and not just the pendulum. So this CM includes the leader, the suspension spring, and the pendulum tip to tip. This length also varies some due to the weight of the pendulum, and also the bob diameter.

Assistance = 800-381-7458

Hermle Clock Kit 248
  • Hermle 1161-853
  • Triple Chime
  • Cable Driven
  • 11 x 15.5 Moon Dial
  • Lyre Pendulum
  • Back 12 Rod Strike
  • Movement = 140 x 220mm
  • Serpentine Hands
  • German Movement
  • 3-year warranty
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Listen to St Micheals

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Mechanical GrandMother Clock Kit GMKIT2

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Mechanical Clock Kits offered on this page are for the clock case maker or to set up all new insides to a currently existing clock.
Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMechanical Movement optionsBuy prior to case creationBuild a Seat BoardPendulum info
Please view these information tabs for Building Mechanical Clock Kits.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

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Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Mechanical Grandmother Clock Kit

This quality Mechanical Grandmother Clock Kit has a Westminster chime movement that it progressively at the quarter hours. Then it will strike out the hourly count when its done with the chime. It includes a phase of the moon dial, and a chime silence switch.

Westminster Chime

The song Westminster will play each quarter hour progressively. This is done with hammers striking rods on the back side of the clock movement. The chime block and rods mount to the back of the clock case and is struck by these hammers on the movement. One side of the chime block is the quarter hour Westminster chime. The other side of the chime block has the rods for the hourly strike that follows the song on the top of the hour.

Optimal case size

This is a nice clock kit size that will work best with a smaller Grandmother style case. The clock case would need to be able to except the movements minimum space requirements as indicated on the picture. What makes this more attractive to the grandmother size clock instead of a grandfather size, is the smaller dial. A typical full sized grand father clock will have an 11 x 15 1/2 phase of the moon dial instead. We do offer this alternate dial size on this same movement and that is listed as a separate product.

Pendulum Length Options

The pendulum and the movement go together. In other words the movement is geared to keep time at a certain length with the pendulum. The decision of how long to have the pendulum be is an important one therefore. This kit offers two lengths to choose from, however there are more options than what is displayed. If wanting a longer or shorter pendulum length, this is certainly possible and please let us know.

Bob Width Options

The 'Bob' is the round disc at the bottom of the pendulum, it can be a variety of widths. To select the width of the bob, you need to first measure how wide the waist of the clock is. The bob size selected should have at least two inches on each side to swing back and forth.

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Westminster GrandMother Clock Kit GMKIT4

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Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

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Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Westminster GrandMother Clock Kit

Quality Westminster GrandMother Clock Kit with an 8 day chain driven run time. Quarterly Westminster chime will play progressively and on the top of the hour, it will strike out the hour. This versatile kit can be used in either a grand father clock or grand mother clock case. The dial size is a standard size for grand father clocks, however the simple chain driven and stick pendulum combination is also common in the grand mother clock series.

Clock Kit Movement

German made, quality clock movement by the Hermle clock company. Quarterly Westminster chime will play progressively and on the top of the hour, it will strike out the hour. Rear chime hammers will play onto a chime block with rods that is mounted to the back of the clock case. This is an 8 day, chain driven, German made, Westminster clock movement.

Phase of the Moon Dial

A moon phase disc will spin indicating the location of the moon. In the old days it would indicate the best time to travel with the light of the moon most bright. That way it is easier to see danger and less risky. These days its just another cool thing to have on the clock and traditional. The dial will have four feet on the back side, these four posts or feet will lock into the front plate of the movement itself. Therefore the dial is secured to the movement and not to the wooden clock case. The movement kit will have a moon gear supplied with it,and this mounts to the same tube as the hour hand. This one gear alone will drive the gears behind the dial and spin the moon disc.

Pendulum Lengths

Offering two lengths on this webpage. There are more options, if needing it longer or shorter please contact us. The German units such as this measure the pendulum from the top of the movement and all the way down. This includes the complete pendulum, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring. This length is based on the smallest bob diameter possible and is indicated on the back of the movement in a CM number. CM is of course centimeters and the actual length will be slightly longer if a wider pendulum bob is used.

Pendulum Bob Diameter Options

A pendulum bob is the round disc at the bottom of the pendulum. Comes in polished brass and matches the weights and dial. The bob has some options with how wide it is to be. The bob width should have two inches on each side to swing back and forth without hitting the sides of the clock case.

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Grandmother Clock Movement Kit GMKIT5

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Mechanical Clock Kits offered on this page are for the clock case maker or to set up all new insides to a currently existing clock.
Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMechanical Movement optionsBuy prior to case creationBuild a Seat BoardPendulum info
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Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Grandmother Clock Movement Kit

This quality Grandmother Clock Movement Kit has a Westminster chime movement that progresses at the quarter hours. After the chime it will strike out the hourly count if it is the top of the hour. It includes a phase of the moon dial, and a chime silence switch.

Slim Grandmother Clock Kit Size

This is a nice size that will work with a Grandmother clock case where there is not a lot of depth. Side strike hammers really reduces the minimum depth requirement needed. The clock case would need to be able to accept the movements minimum space requirements as indicated on the picture.

The Pendulum Length Options

There are a few options for the length of the pendulum. The CM is the pendulum length from the top of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulums rating nut threads. So this measurement is the pendulum itself from tip to tip off of the clock, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu. This is based on the smallest bob diameter, larger bob diameters will have a slightly longer pendulum length overall.

The Bob Options

The 'Bob' is the round disc at the bottom of the pendulum, it can be a variety of widths. To select the width of the bob, first measure how wide the waist of the clock is. The bob size selected should have at least two inches on each side to swing back and forth.

Components

Grandmother Movement

German made chain driven Westminster movement by Hermle will run 8 days on a single wind up. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. The movement includes the chains, mounting screws and washers, the leader, the suspension spring, hand nut and moon dial gear. There are two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the hammers on the back, 4 on one side for the chime and 4 on the other for the strike.

The Chimeblock

The chimeblock will mount to the back of the clock case by the included hardware. It has 5 premounted, pretuned chime rods and an overall length of about 10 inches if measured through the block.

Grandmother Dial

Includes a Tempus Fugit style dial that is 11 x 14 7/8. The silver and brass tone dial has raised numerals. The Tempus Fugit dial's hump top can be easily zipped off for a 11 x 11 dial instead, if needed.

Kit Hour and Minute Hands

Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands sized for the dial diameter.

Grandmother Clock Pendulum

The wood stick pendulum will come unstained so it can be stained like the case on the customers end. It is a simple design that is good for the rustic antique style look.

Movement Kit Weights

Includes three polished brass tone weights that are 47mm in diameter. The weights are shipped complete with fillers already assembled. Please note, these are tricky to ship as upon shifting back and forth sometimes the end caps get slightly damaged or concave. If this is the situation just let us know and we will ship out new end caps free of charge.

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Kieninger Grandfather Clock Kit

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Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Kieninger Grandfather Clock Kit

The Kieninger grandfather clock kit boasts a cable driven, triple chime, German movement. Kieninger is known to have the thickest plates in the clock industry. Plays 4/4 Westminster, Whittington, or St. Michaels chimes quarterly. On the top of the hour after it chimes it will strike out the hour. Includes an automatic beat adjustment, over wind protection, removable cable drums, second hand sweep and ANSO. ANSO = automatic night chime shutoff feature so it will not chime between 11PM and 7AM. Complete with hands, crank, chime block, weights and shells, pulleys, lyre pendulum and 11 x 15 1/2 moon dial. The dial has brass overlays and raised numerals.

Grandfather Clock Kit Options

Three pendulum length options as well as three pendulum bob disc diameter options. If wanting to go with a more simple look on the pendulum we can offer the wood stick style instead. The case should be at least 4 inches wider than the pendulum bob selected. This way the pendulum will not bonk the sides of the case when it is trying to run. Much more information included within the tabs of this very page, please read for more information.

Assistance = 800-381-7458

Kieninger Grandfather Clock Kit GFKIT03
  • Kieninger MSU
  • Triple Chime
  • Cable Driven
  • 11 x 15.5 Moon Dial
  • Lyre Pendulum
  • Back 12 Rod Strike
  • Movement = 140 x 220mm
  • Serpentine Hands
  • Made in Germany
  • 3-year warranty
Listen to Westminster
Listen to Wittington
Listen to St Micheals

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Tubular Bell Grandfather Clock Kit

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Mechanical Clock Kits offered on this page are for the clock case maker or to set up all new insides to a currently existing clock.
Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMechanical Movement optionsBuy prior to case creationBuild a Seat BoardPendulum info
Please view these information tabs for Building Mechanical Clock Kits.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Tubular Bell Grandfather Clock Kit

Hermle 1171-890 Tubular Bell Grandfather Clock Kit is one of the finest quality clock movements made in modern times. Specifically, it plays 4/4 Westminster, Whittington, or St. Michael's chimes each quarter hour and strikes the full hour. Additionally, it has an automatic beat adjustment, over wind protection, removable cable drums, second hand sweep.

  • Weight drop after 8 days is 63"
  • Full Weight Drop: 58"
  • Automatic night shut off for when your sleeping.
  • Exact second beat and automatic beat adjustment
  • Easy to mount system
  • Polished brass weight shells and pendulum bob
  • Black serpentine hands for a 10" time track dial
  • 61 inches from top of movement to bottom of longest chime tube
  • Moon dial measures 15 5/8"H x 11"W
  • Full 2-year factory warranty.
  • Made in Germany by The Hermle Clock company

Large Components

Tubular Bell Grandfather Clock Movement

Movement Description

German made by Hermle and known as the 1171-890 Tubular bell grandfather clock kit movement. Specifically, it plays 4/4 Westminster, Whittington, or St. Michael's chimes each quarter hour and strikes the full hour. It has an automatic beat adjustment, over wind protection, removable cable drums, second hand sweep. Furthermore, the movement will come from the factory with oil so it is ready for installation. Of course it also includes cables, pulleys, mounting screws and washers, the leader, the suspension spring, hand nut and moon dial gear. Additionally, it has two rectangle outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the 9 hammers on the back for the tubular bells.

Movement Installation

Despite the size of this tubular bell unit, the installation is easy in comparison to chime rod grandfather clock kits. It comes mounted on the seat board that it sits upon so it is all set to be secured to the clock case hood.

Phase of the Moon Dial

Dial Description

Includes a standard 11 x 15 1/2 dial for cases the size of grandfather clocks. Moreover, the silver and brass tone dial has raised numerals. It includes the moon drive gear to run the moving moon phase function.

Dial Installation

The Moon Gear

First, mount the moon gear to the movement. It will be a single loose gear with a big hole in the center. Of course, this will be in your shipment. Note this gear has a small set screw on the side of it, sometimes two of them. This gear goes over the post that the clocks hour hand will go on, and then tightens via the set screw. As a result, it may take a couple of tries to get the height correct on this post. Accordingly, it has to mesh with the gearing on the back of the clock dial only.

Mounting

Likewise, mounting the dial is easy as it has four posts on the back that lock into the movement. Most importantly, do not touch the dial with your bare hands as you can discolor it. Ordinarily, it is best to use gloves or a rag to handle it. First, line up the clocks hand shaft to the hole in the center of the dial and then line up the posts with the holes in the movement. At this point the dial is on the clock but it is not secured. There are two ways to secure the dial. One style has locking arms on the back of the front plate of the movement that slide over the end of the dial post to lock it tight. This is if both the dial and the movement are made this way. Otherwise, there maybe holes in the ends of the dial post feet where a tapered pin will go through the hole after it is on the movement. Of course, sometimes the dial will be made with the holes in the end of the posts, and sometimes it will lock into the movement with the arms.

Hour, Minute, Second Hands

Hands Description

Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands fit for the 10 inch dial diameter. Along with a separate sweep second hand that is its own indicator track on the dial.

Lyre Style Pendulum

Pendulum Description

Lyre pendulum with a round 270mm wide polished bob. At the bottom of the pendulum is the rating assembly. This is only a nut and threads that hold the pendulum bob on. So, as the name rating nut and threads indicates, its use is to adjust the time keeping of the clock. Thus, if you turn the nut at the bottom as to raise the pendulum bob a little, this will speed up time. Of course, do the reverse for slowing down the time.

Weights

Weights Description

Altogether, the kit includes three polished brass tone weights. Weights ship complete with fillers already in them. Please note, these are tricky to ship. The lead shifts back and forth sometimes in transit so the end caps can sustain damage or become concave. If this is the situation just let us know and we will ship out new end caps free of charge.

Tubes

Set of 9 Tubes

The tubes give off a better type of sound to the chime, it sounds more majestic or rich when it plays the chimes. The tubes are really just that, a high polish tube from short to long in a set of 9.


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Tall-Case Grandfather Clock Kit

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Mechanical Clock Kits offered on this page are for the clock case maker or to set up all new insides to a currently existing clock.
Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMechanical Movement optionsBuy prior to case creationBuild a Seat BoardPendulum info
Please view these information tabs for Building Mechanical Clock Kits.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

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Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Tall-Case Grandfather Clock Kit

Tall-Case Grandfather Clock Kit with a German made clock movement. It is chain driven with an 8 day run time on a single wind up. A stick pendulum for a more antique or shaker look or can be swapped out for a more contemporary metal lyre style instead.

The Ideal Clock Case

A nice clock case to build for this kit would be a taller case where depth is not a concern. What makes this unit tall is of course the pendulum length, the depth is pretty deep with the longer two inch hand shaft and rear hammers. All this makes for a nice tall case unit with variable width options. The width of the case would depend on the pendulum bob chosen, there should be 2 inches on each side of the pendulum bob at minimum for the pendulum to swing back and forth. It can have an open or closed waist depending on if you want to see the pendulum through a glass window or not.

Components

Movement

Chain driven Westminster movement will run 8 days on a single wind up. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. It includes its chains, mounting screws and washers, the leader, the suspension spring, hand nut and moon dial gear. It has two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the hammers on the back, 4 on one side for the chime and 4 on the other for the strike.

Pendulum

A wood stick pendulum will come unstained so it can be stained like the case on the customers end. It is a simple design that is good for the rustic antique style look. Pendulum length is 116cm from the top of the movements pendulum post, all the way down to the very bottom of the pendulum rating nut threads. If you were to take the pendulum off the clock and measure it from tip to tip off of the clock it would be around 42 inches. This is based on a small bob diameter, if a larger bob is used the length will be slightly longer.

Pendulum Bob

The 'Bob' is the round disc at the bottom of the pendulum, it can be a variety of widths. To select the width of the bob, you need to first measure how wide the waist of the clock is. The bob size selected should have at least two inches on each side to swing back and forth.

Chimeblock

Chimeblock will mount to the back of the clock case by the included hardware. It has 8 premounted, pretuned chime rods and an overall length of about 27 inches through the block.

Clock Dial

Includes a Tempus Fugit style dial that is 11 x 14 7/8. The silver and brass tone dial has raised numerals. Tempus Fugit dial's hump top can be easily zipped off for a 11 x 11 dial instead, if needed.

Weights

Kit includes three polished brass tone weights that are 47mm in diameter. Weights are shipped complete with fillers already assembled. Please note, these are tricky to ship as upon shifting back and forth sometimes the end caps get slightly damaged or concave. If this is the situation just let us know and we will ship out new end caps free of charge.

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Side-Strike Tall Case Clock Kit

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Mechanical Clock Kits offered on this page are for the clock case maker or to set up all new insides to a currently existing clock.
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Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2020

Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Side-Strike Tall Case Clock Kit

This quality chain driven Side-Strike Grandmother Clock Kit will strike the hours on a Bim Bam sound. On the half hour it will strike only one Bim Bam. This is a simple design with only two weights that will run 8 days on a single wind. The kit comes with the movement, chime, the dial, pendulum, and hands. This is a complete clock without the wood case

Ideal clock case

This is a great clock kit for a shaker or tall case style grandmother or granddaughter sized clock case. Pictures show some measurements needed to know to build the case. Of course the best thing to do is to get the movement first and then build the case afterward.

Components

German Movement

The chain driven side Strike movement will run 8 days on a single wind up. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. It includes its chains, mounting screws and washers, the leader, the suspension spring, and hand nut. It has two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the hammers on the side. The hand shaft, (shaft that the hands go on) is 32.3mm from the front plate and all the way out.

Movement Installation

The movement will need a seat board to mount on. A seat board can consist of only two parallel board strips that are approximately 3/4 square. These two boards run along the bottom of the hood of the case with the space about 1 inch apart. The front plate of the movement sits on one board while the back plate sits on the other. The chains drop down between the boards to suspend the movement in the air where everything else will dangle from it. The movement secures from underneath with the two screws and rectangle washers that come with the kit. The washers are rectangle as it will clamp each seat board while the screw goes up to the movements bottom pillar into the post hole threads.

Tempus Fugit Dial

Includes a Tempus Fugit style dial that is 11 x 14 7/8. The silver and brass tone dial has raised numerals. The Tempus Fugit dial's hump top can be easily cut off for a 11 x 11 dial instead. We can do that here for no charge if the clock case looks best with a square dial. Mounting the dial is easy as it only has to attach to the wood case. The usual way this is done is drilling four pilot holes in the corners of the dial and use some small brass screws to secure it.

Chime Block with Rods

Mounted on the side of the clock case for the Bim Bam strike sound. Two of the hammers on the movement move at once on the longer two bars, then only one hammer hits the shorter rod. This creates the sound bim bam. At 2 o'clock the sound would be bimbam bimbam in other words. One the half hours it will just play one bimbam sound.

Hour and Minute Hands

Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands sized for the dial diameter. The hour hand has a round hole and is only a friction fit onto the post. It will be able to move forward or backward to adjust the time. The minute hand has a 2mm square hole in the rotatable mounting bushing. The minute hand secures with the minute hand nut that comes with the movement.

Stick Pendulum

The wood stick pendulum will come unstained so it can be stained like the case on the customers end. Or painted black. It is a simple design that is good for the rustic antique style look. The pendulum length on this unit measures from the top of the clock movements suspension post and all the way down. This measurement is 100cm and includes the pendulum tip to tip, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on. After the movement is in, its only a matter of hanging the pendulum on its leader. The term leader is that pendulum hanger on the back of the movement that swings back and forth.

Polished Weights

The kit includes two polished brass tone weights that are 43mm in diameter. The weights ship complete with fillers already in the tubes.

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Quartz Clock Chain Decoration

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Quartz Clock Chain Decoration

Quartz clock chain decoration come between 5 and 6 foot lengths. You can chop them smaller to hang your weight shells in the air on the quartz grandfather clock conversion kit. These are solid brass and usually go on a mechanical grand father clock.


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Mechanical – Quartz Clock Conversion Kit

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Mechanical Clock To Quartz Conversion

Offered here is a economical alternative to the mechanical replacement unit. The clock will be battery operated, and still look and sound the same. This easily installed kit contains everything needed. It has the chiming quartz clock movement and the pendulum drive. (Only needs to have the hands picked out.) With just some minor alterations, you will mount the movement to the back of the dial. Then mount the pendulum drive to the back of the clock case.

Heavy Duty Pendulum Drive

5 1/2" x 2 5/8" x 2"

Heavy duty Clock pendulum drive

No Chime

Heavy Duty External Quartz Pendulum Drive. The strongest battery operated pendulum swinger available. This can run largest metal grandfather clock pendulum on the market along with added weight.

Operates on two C cell batteries (not included)

#QU40 Four Melody Chime (Best Sound)

4 9/16" x 4 3/4" x 1 1/8"

Chiming Quartz clock movements

West Ave Maria Bim Bam Hour Strike

Song options: Westminster every quarter or Westminster, Ave Maria, Bim Bam options on the top of the hour only. Includes a light sensor and will be silent automatically if its dark in the room. Hands for this unit are sold separately.

  • Volume control
  • Includes a pendulum
  • AutoNight Silence Switch
  • Light sensor for chime off

About the movement

The QU40 quartz clock movement is the best sounding unit on the market. It will sound just as a mechanical clock chime. It will also have some added benefits. The volume control can make it very loud or soft this was not possible on the old mechanical unit. This quartz unit also have multiple chime options and an auto night silence switch.

QU40 Instructions

Mounting the movement

The QU40 quartz clock movement will mount to the back of the clock dial. If the clock dial has phase of the moon it can have gears in the way of this. The QU40 would need a flat surface to mount up to the dial so these things would need to be removed.

About the pendulum drive

This is a new product on the market. Never before was there such a strong pendulum drive produced like this one. It will run any pendulum length or weight that a mechanical unit has run in the past. It will mount to the back of the wood clock case with wood screws.

Parts no longer needed

Mechanical movement is getting swapped for the quartz unit instead, so it is no longer needed. The new quartz movement will come with hands so these are not needed either. Chime block will no longer be used from the clock case and can be removed and discarded. The only things needed from the old mechanical kit is the dial and the pendulum. Weight shells also if they are to be hung as decoration to have the clock look the same.

Weight modifications

The clock weights are heavy so it is best to make them lighter. With the weight removed from the outer shell, it can be hung for decoration. A portion of the chain or cable from the mechanical unit could be used to hang the decorative weight shells. With a little attention the clock can look just as it did with the mechanical movement.

What will not work

Dial's clock moon dial disk that indicates the lunar cycles will no longer spin. If the clock has a moon dial that is. If there is a separate second hand sweep portion on the dial, the quartz unit will not have this feature. There will no longer be a second hand spinning with in that circle. Someone could epoxy the second hand to the dial so at least it looks right.

The point of no return

When a Mechanical - Quartz Clock Conversion is used, there is no going back. At least it would not always be easy to go back to a mechanical movement. So please be sure this is what you would like to do for the long run.

Steps to Take - the short version

  1. Remove the old movement and all related parts
  2. Mount the quartz movement to the back of the dial
  3. Mount the external pendulum drive to the back of the cabinet and hang the pendulum.
  4. Remove lead from weight shells and hang the shells for decoration

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Cuckoo Clock Repair/Cleaning Kit

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Cuckoo Clock Repair Kit Description

The basic items for a Cuckoo Clock Repair/cleaning Kit. This kit is meant for use without disassembling the movement. Cleaning without disassembly is not as effective as breaking down the movement, but it is sufficient in most cases. Not everyone is ready to break down their clock movement and put it back together. This kit is for the person who would like to do a simple clock cleaning with out having to learn an intense amount of clock repair information or Horology. The goal to cleaning a clock movement is to remove old oil that has become a solid and put new oil in its place. Clock oil that has become a solid creates wear to the movements outer plates and eventually causes too much friction for the clock to run.

Includes:

Clock Repair E-Book

Downloadable Ebook that includes the following topics:
The success of this E-Book is from the simplicity in the answers and the ease of use. This will make it very easy for the clock owner to solve simple problems that may arise when there is an issue with the clock.
The topics you see below are the actual topics that are on the cover page of the E-Book. Please review them and see if this E-Book will help you. You will find this very helpful in solving many different clock repair issues and questions on cleaning and oiling a movement.
Weight driven grandfather clock

Weight Driven

  • Introduction
  • Putting it "In Beat"
  • Ticks ok but stops
  • No tick tock sound
  • Quarter chime is off
  • Cleaning - Assembled
  • Cleaning - Disassembled
  • Reassembling the works
  • Repair methods
  • Replacing with a new movement
Spring Driven Mantle Clock

Spring Driven

  • Introduction
  • Putting it "In Beat"
  • Ticks ok but stops
  • No tick tock sound
  • Working with mainsprings
  • Cleaning - Assembled
  • Cleaning - Disassembled
  • Reassembling the works
  • Repair methods
  • Replacing with a new movement
400 day repair kit

Anniversary Clocks

  • Introduction
  • Setting up the clock
  • Changing Suspensions
  • Putting it "In Beat"
  • Cleaning the Movement
  • Reassembling the works
cuckoo clock repair kit

Cuckoo Clocks

  • Introduction
  • Parts Check
  • Checking for Wear
  • Replacing Bellows
  • Replacing Bellow Cloth
  • Putting it "In Beat"
  • Not Cuckooing at the Right Time
  • Cuckooing the Wrong Amount
  • Movement Removal and Installation
  • New Cuckoo Set-Up
  • Changing the Hands
  • Cleaning the Movement

Also Includes:

Clock Cleaning Solution

Clock Cleaning Solution

The clock cleaning kit includes One pint of concentrate ammoniated clock cleaning solution to clean movements by hand, or to use with an ultrasonic cleaning machine. Mix 1 part of this solution to 6 parts of water to clean old clock oil from the movement. The E-book that comes with this kit has instructions on how to clean the clock movement in the best and safest way. So please refer to it before starting the cleaning process.
cuckoo clock repair E-clips

"E" Style Clips

Split washers are similar to C clips as they attach various parts to the movement. These are usually what cuckoo clocks use. There is a mixture of 100 sizes in this pack.

cuckoo clock Bellow tops

Bellow Top Pair

Bellow tops that are in this Cuckoo Repair Kit are the most frequent item that is in need of replacing on a cuckoo clock. Epoxy these on the old bottoms just as the old tops were taken off. Please refer to the help section for details. We also recommend getting the wire assortment with this if there are any missing wires such as lifting wires. It is a common thing for bellows to rip open when they are old. These replacement tops attach to the bottom part of the bellows easily with epoxy. Epoxy is also in this kit. The bellow tops are the common size of 1 3/4 x 1 1/4 inches, but any size you would like can be sent with this kit. We have all sizes in stock and can easily change the order to your size in this Cuckoo Clock Repair/Cleaning Kit.
cuckoo clock repair bellow wires

Wire Assortment

Includes bellow lifting wires in various lengths, eye hole wires, cuckoo bird door wires and the bird to door wire. These are the proper lengths and bends that are most common.

cuckoo clock hook and ring
Cuckoo Hook and Ring The hook goes on one end of the chain to hold the weight up. The ring goes on the other side of the same chain so the chain will not travel into the movement and onto the ground. Sold as one hook and one ring as a set, comes with two sets
wood screw assortment

Wood Screw Assortment

This wood screw assortment that is in this Cuckoo Clock Repair/Cleaning Kit has many screws that are a nice size for cuckoos.

clock oiler with oil

Oiler with Oil

Fountain oiler with general clock oil. Convenient applicator to get into tough areas. This is the oil you need to lubricate your clock. The oiler is full of oil and is the size of a fat pen. A small amount of oil gets put on anything that has friction after the old oil has been taken off. This is enough clock oil to do many clock movements.

clock hand remover tool

Hand Remover Tool

Removes stubborn hands and gears in a straight motion. Sometimes you need this to remove the wheel on the back that lifts the bellow lift wires.


cuckoo clock epoxy

Cuckoo Epoxy

Cuckoo Repair Kit cuckoo epoxy for bellow top replacement, attaching numerals, or repairing broken wood.

clock repair vision visor magnification

Vision Visor

This magnifier can be worn over glasses. This fits over the head and will be the most convenient magnification for inspecting important components of the clock movement and parts. This quality tool is made here in USA and is a must for this type of work. This flips up over the head when there is an interruption in your work and has 2 1/2 magnification power.


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Bell Strike Clock Kit GMKIT7

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Mechanical Clock Kits offered on this page are for the clock case maker or to set up all new insides to a currently existing clock.
Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMechanical Movement optionsBuy prior to case creationBuild a Seat BoardPendulum info
Please view these information tabs for Building Mechanical Clock Kits.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the granddaughter, grandmother, and grandfather series. Mechanical Clock Kit Styles are in the list below.

Mantle clocks

Mantle clock kits are always spring driven and wound with a clock key. Moreover, it can come in a variety of chime types. Triple chime, Westminster only, bell strike, bim bam or gong strike. If the clock has three places to wind with the key it is a quarterly chime unit. This means it is either Triple chime or Westminster only. In other words every 15 minutes it will progressively play part of the song. At the top of the hour it will play the complete song then strike out the hours.

Wall clocks

Wall clock kits may be spring driven or weight driven. There are more spring driven wall clocks in the world than weight driven. The weights are not light and it is a lot for a wall to hold. So fastening it well is very important. The movement can have a pendulum or no pendulum but of course the pendulum is most popular. When a mechanical clock does not have a pendulum it has a balance wheel instead. This is a floating and rocking wheel on the top of the movement and operates more like a watch balance.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles - Granddaughter or Grandmother clocks

Typically, granddaughters are spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven. The chiming units have three weights. Any other strike style has two weights. It is a shorter clock overall than a grandfather clock.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays choice of three songs. However it is not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

Chime types

All of the above mechanical clock kit styles, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make the clock play a song or make a noise. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, the most common of the songs is Westminster, Or there is the triple chime that includes Westminster, St. Michaels, or Whittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coil gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

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Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at Clockworks, however we can't include them all as it would be overwhelming. It may be possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or for general assistance.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever wanted to listen to out of these we can do.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the metal lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of heavy paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Chime type

All of them really. an have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Mechanical clock-kit movement options - Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a the dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock-Kit movement options. Please call to discuss the clock kits with us 800 381 7458.

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Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit. This sounds crazy but it is more common than anyone may think. So before spending a lot of time and hard work on building a luxury case, take the advice of getting the clock kit first. It will save lots of frustration and money in the long run.

Why order a clock kit before building

To find or adapt a clock kit to the case is very difficult. The ideal dial or other parts may not exist in the size that the case requires. Measurements need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Always order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. Having the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case is ideal. This way it will be easy to measure the various parts of the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial. Having the luxury of the components suspended before you to measure at will, is a wise decision.

Not all clocks can be replicated

The size of many antique clocks dials just are not made anymore. Grandfather clocks back in the day had large Clock dials with ships on them. They most certainly are gorgeous but try to find another one like it. These are no longer available. This is the case with many others as well. This is yet another reason to buy the clock kit before building the case. If the dial is found, we need to drill winding holes. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. Chain driven clocks are the only style that does not need winding holes in the dial.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks offers a large variety of clock movements. However, when it comes to some components resources can get slim. This is why it is important to buy the clock kit before building the case. Clock dials are the hardest because there are so many shapes, sizes, and options available. Examples include round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summary

To sum up this topic on clock kits. It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. The best thing to do is set up the movement kit in the workshop. This way is easy access to visualize the size prior to installation. Nothing is worse than making a beautiful case only to realize there are no components that will fit it. By purchasing all of the components before building, there is less chance for error when making the case. They will be at the disposal to measure at any time during the building process.

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Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. Of course, the movement sits on this with cables or chains. Subsequently, they hang directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Additionally, many of the modern clocks have a seatboard that is 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep. However this varies depending on the clock case dimensions. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide. It goes across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.
Grandfather clock movement seatboard

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. These are the screws with the rectangle washers. Of course, an easier method would be to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case. This is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air, all that needs to be done is have the chime block mounted. This goes on the back of the clock case. This enables the hammers to engage with the rods for the chime sound. Next hang the weights and pendulum. The final step is to lock the dial into the movement from the front.

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A plywood seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Many ways to make a seat board

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

A simple test stand

Making a Grandfather Clock Seat-Board

Clock case seat board

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Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

Grandfather clock pendulum information begins with the obvious discussion of length. The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension spring that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Hermle Clock Movement Availability

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension spring, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . Moreover, the CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum. Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Bell Strike Clock Kit

This quality chain driven Bell clock kit will strike the hours on a nice deep sounding bell. On the half hour it will strike only once. This is a simple design with only two weights that will run 8 days on a single wind. The kit comes with the movement, bell, the dial, pendulum, and hands. This is a complete clock without the wood case

Ideal clock case

This is a great clock kit for a small shaker style grandmother or granddaughter sized clock case. Pictures show some measurements needed to know to build the case. Of course the best thing to do is to get the movement first and then build the case afterward.

Components

German Movement

The chain driven Bell Strike movement will run 8 days on a single wind up. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. It includes its chains, mounting screws and washers, the leader, the suspension spring, and hand nut. It has two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the hammers on the top for the bell. The hand shaft, (shaft that the hands go on) is 27.2mm from the front plate and all the way out.

Movement Installation

The movement will need a seat board to mount on. A seat board can consist of only two parallel board strips that are approximately 3/4 square. These two boards run along the bottom of the hood of the case with the space about 1 inch apart. The front plate of the movement sits on one board while the back plate sits on the other. The chains drop down between the boards to suspend the movement in the air where everything else will dangle from it. The movement secures from underneath with the two screws and rectangle washers that come with the kit. The washers are rectangle as it will clamp each seat board while the screw goes up to the movements bottom pillar into the post hole threads.

Tempus Fugit Dial

Includes a Tempus Fugit style dial that is 11 x 14 7/8. The silver and brass tone dial has raised numerals. The Tempus Fugit dial's hump top can be easily cut off for a 11 x 11 dial instead. We can do that here for no charge if the clock case looks best with a square dial. Mounting the dial is easy as it only has to attach to the wood case. The usual way this is done is drilling four pilot holes in the corners of the dial and use some small brass screws to secure it.

Solid Brass Bell

The Bell is 5 inches in diameter and is cast brass. Bell can mount anywhere in the top area of the case. The strike hammer on the movement is very long, so shorten it to whatever length will hit the bell. The hammer head on the strike wire is only on with a set screw so after the rod is cut, slide it on at any position. The hammer should strike the bell somewhere close to the outer edge. The hammer should be about 1/8 inch away from the bell at rest for the best sound. If its less or more it will thud or double hit usually.

Hour and Minute Hands

Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands sized for the dial diameter. The hour hand has a round hole and is only a friction fit onto the post. It will be able to move forward or backward to adjust the time. The minute hand has a 2mm square hole in the rotatable mounting bushing. The minute hand secures with the minute hand nut that comes with the movement.

Stick Pendulum

The wood stick pendulum will come unstained so it can be stained like the case on the customers end. Or painted black. It is a simple design that is good for the rustic antique style look. The pendulum length on this unit measures from the top of the clock movements suspension post and all the way down. This measurement is 75cm and includes the pendulum tip to tip, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on. After the movement is in, its only a matter of hanging the pendulum on its leader. The term leader is that pendulum hanger on the back of the movement that swings back and forth.

Polished Weights

The kit includes two polished brass tone weights that are 43mm in diameter. The weights ship complete with fillers already in the tubes.

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